barklife
barklife
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Josh and Jahnna discuss their family life, including their podcast "Bark Life," recorded from their home. They talk about their mail, particularly scare tactics used by companies. They delve into DEI policies, emphasizing the benefits for veterans and white women. Josh shares his home renovation experiences, including laying tile and restoring a window. Jahnna talks about her health issues, including ankylosing spondyloarthritis and kidney stones, and their dietary changes. They also discuss their views on religion, politics, and the importance of empathy and critical thinking. The conversation ends with plans for their busy Friday and their social media presence.
[For actual timestamps, add 10 seconds to the times listed below. Sorry! This is my (Josh) fault. I forgot to add the intro and outro music before Jahnna did the transcription. Also, be ready at 1m1s or so... Eddie's screech is right next to mic! Hence the title of barklife.]
Josh Groft 0:00
Welcome to Bark Life. This is a podcast that airs, airs?
Jahnna Harvey 0:05
Every 18 months.
Josh Groft 0:05
Every 18 months. Airs? Is it brought? Is it recorded? Live! from Casa Harvey-Groft.
Jahnna Harvey 0:12
From our dining room table.
Josh Groft 0:15
Yes, I'm Josh.
Jahnna Harvey 0:17
I'm Jahnna.
Josh Groft 0:18
You are Jahnna. I'm sitting next to Eddie, our audio engineer, Otis, our producer, and Wren is also here. He's under the table. We don't know what he does.
Jahnna Harvey 0:27
Every family needs a dog.
Josh Groft 0:29
Oh, right, he's a dog.
Jahnna Harvey 0:32
Okay, now what? We're out of practice.
Josh Groft 0:34
We are out of practice. Let's go with: you were telling me you just opened the mail.
Jahnna Harvey 0:38
I did.
Josh Groft 0:38
So let me preface this...
Jahnna Harvey 0:42
Live from family meeting!
Josh Groft 0:43
...briefly for the audience, if there is one.
Jahnna Harvey 0:47
Hi, Sarah.
Josh Groft 0:48
Oh, Hi, Sarah. [both laughing] You don't know which Sarah though!
Sunday mornings are...we are recording this on Sunday, February 15th...
Jahnna Harvey 1:00
16th.
Josh Groft 1:01
...Holy crap. That's right, because Friday was Valentine's Day. It was a massacre. [dog screech]
Jahnna Harvey 1:08
Oh, good grief.
Josh Groft 1:09
That really...ooh, that's going to be really beautiful in your ear, in your ear holes. [both laughing] February, 16. Sunday mornings, we do family meetings over breakfast. Sometimes there's Boggle, [bark] the game...
Jahnna Harvey 1:28
Yeah.
Josh Groft 1:29
...sometimes there's not. Every once in a while, there's...
Jahnna Harvey 1:34
Barking.
Josh Groft 1:35
...barking. [someone sniffs] I don't know why we're barking in this particular instance.
Jahnna Harvey 1:43
Vibes.
Josh Groft 1:45
So family meeting: we open the mail for the week. [bark] We sort out the bills and such and such and such. Tell me about the mail.
Jahnna Harvey 1:56
The mail. [Josh says something in background] And the mail really pisses me off, because every... We refinanced our house, and so, like, every week, we get these things that are like, this is our final attempt to contact you, and it's like scare tactics, but they really just want to sell us something. And I hate that. We even get stuff like that from our own water company. They're scare tactic letters.
Josh Groft 2:18
They're great.
Jahnna Harvey 2:19
I hate it.
Josh Groft 2:21
You could buy more insurance.
Jahnna Harvey 2:23
I've got this thing about, like, mobilizing fear.
Josh Groft 2:28
Yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 2:29
I really hate it.
Josh Groft 2:30
So this is where I insert a show note that says, Please read Barry Glassner's Culture of Fear.
Jahnna Harvey 2:35
Yes.
Josh Groft 2:36
We have three editions of this book.
Jahnna Harvey 2:38
We have two editions of this book.
Josh Groft 2:40
Really. [Jahnna: MmmHmm]
Jahnna Harvey 2:42
We have the pre?, we have the post?-911 version, and we have the post-first-Trump administration version.
Josh Groft 2:53
So the question..
Jahnna Harvey 2:54
There was one in the middle there.
Josh Groft 2:56
I thought there was one pre-911 [Jahnna: Dunno] right? Okay,
Jahnna Harvey 3:01
I don't think so.
Josh Groft 3:01
Anyway, Barry Glassner, culture of fear, read it. There's an audio book version. I know because I bought it for my mother on Audible...
Jahnna Harvey 3:10
I don't think she read it
Josh Groft 3:10
years ago. No, she can't read with her ears. [Josh giggles]Okay.
Jahnna Harvey 3:20
All right. The gist is that we're all trained to be afraid of the wrong things, and um...that includes scare tactic mail.
Josh Groft 3:29
Sure. [another sniff] Primarily scare tactic mail, that's the main thing. And then you've also got like, DEI, which stands for Death...I don't have a joke for this.
Jahnna Harvey 3:41
I don't either. I will point out, though, even though I'm preaching to the choir, that the number one beneficiary of DEI policies are veterans and white women.
Josh Groft 3:50
White women.
Jahnna Harvey 3:52
And then also, if you use things like a screen reader or like a zoom on your phone or cut outs on the sidewalk, like those are all examples of DEI-style practices. So,
Josh Groft 4:07
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no. We're the choir. We hear you.
Jahnna Harvey 4:10
I'm just pointing that out just in case.
Josh Groft 4:12
Just in case. [Jahnna laughs] We should do, we don't have TikTok. We can't have Tiktok. We should do Instagram. What are they called? Reels?
Jahnna Harvey 4:19
Oh, should we make lives? Should we do lives or reels or whatever?
Josh Groft 4:22
Do That thing where..
Jahnna Harvey 4:23
Explainers.
Josh Groft 4:25
...me talking to myself with two different cameras or whatever?
Jahnna Harvey 4:28
Yeah.
Josh Groft 4:30
Whatever. Yes.
Jahnna Harvey 4:32
Eddie explains DEI.
Josh Groft 4:33
I mean, very exciting. So a few years ago, when I was still working in Chicago, my HR director, we were in a meeting, and she was talking about, you know, are...are we...We can't really encourage people, because you can't. You have to self identify as disabled, like...
Jahnna Harvey 4:53
Yes.
Josh Groft 4:54
...Unless you're visibly disabled.
Jahnna Harvey 4:56
Well, even then, you have to, to a certain extent, advocate for your own...
Josh Groft 5:00
...sure, but I mean in the paperwork, right? Like in the hiring paperwork, but every time I'm hired, it asks me, if I'm...am I a veteran? Am I whatever, whatever? And I always put disabled, because even though, right, there's someone I can name, some people, there are people who will say, oh you don't look disabled, you're not really disabled, but I'm Type I diabetic, and that is a disability under the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act, and I have to advocate for myself because...especially because it's not a...like a...an easily visible disability. [Jahnna: Mmhm] So if, like, my blood sugar is low or high or anything between, people need to know, like, I need people to know that about me so that I can be, like, give me five minutes. I need to go get an orange juice, right? Like, that's not a big ask.
Jahnna Harvey 5:56
No, but you are entitled to reasonable accommodation, and that includes doctor's appointments and...
Josh Groft 6:00
Sure.
Jahnna Harvey 6:01
...stuff like that.
Josh Groft 6:02
And anyway, I am, I am the AM, at the very least the EI in DEI. I mean, there's, there's some online chatter in some circles about, don't be a coward. Say the words diversity, equity, inclusion. What are you afraid of?
Jahnna Harvey 6:25
It's the [both] diversity [both laugh].
and the inclusion.
Josh Groft 6:30
Well, yeah, but don't forget about the equity. Because [pearl clutching voice] who's gonna pay for it?
Jahnna Harvey 6:34
Well, not just that, but like, if we're all equal, that really upsets the apple cart for some people.
Josh Groft 6:39
Which people? No, never mind.
Jahnna Harvey 6:42
Well, my fifth graders could tell you [sniff] that it upsets the apple cart for the people at the top of the pyramid, because we talk about this all the time, because we're studying the colonies, and so we talk about, you know, laws that are enacted to keep different groups separate, or to make different groups have different privileges and and things like that. So, I mean, my 10 year olds understand this, so it's not really that complicated.
Josh Groft 7:10
Your 10 year olds are...I'm guessing you don't have them reading primary sources.
Jahnna Harvey 7:14
I do.
Josh Groft 7:14
Oh, really, yeah?
Jahnna Harvey 7:15
Yeah.
Josh Groft 7:15
Do you send them to Consource, or just, you have, you have the documents?
Jahnna Harvey 7:19
I have the documents [Josh: Hm.] We read, you know, the Mayflower Compact. We read Powhatan's message to John Smith.
Josh Groft 7:26
oh, yeah, no, I'm...there...there's a lot. I mean, I don't think I encountered this until high school, but all, like the, like, all of the material available around the ratification of the Constitution and like, the letters, the CATO stuff [Jahnna: Mhm] and the all the letters around. It's not like it was especially popular, except with those at the top [Jahnna: Right.] of the pyramid.
Jahnna Harvey 7:48
Well, we will...We don't read the federalist papers in fifth grade...
Josh Groft 7:52
Thank God they'd be so bored.
Jahnna Harvey 7:54
...perhaps, obviously, but we do...Our curriculum ends with the ratification of the Constitution. So we do talk about how there are a lot of different opinions about how to form a new country, and how this was never done before...like revolution against a colonial power never happened before. And so we do talk about a lot of those things, and we do read primary sources throughout the year, because that's a history skill, and they're...you're never too young to learn that, but you maybe can be too old to learn that? Because if you don't learn those thinking patterns when you're younger, it can be really difficult to...
Josh Groft 8:33
You hear that old people? You're stupid.
Jahnna Harvey 8:35
No...
Josh Groft 8:37
That's me, sorry.
Jahnna Harvey 8:38
We talk about this all the time, right? That a low information voter is not a stupid person. It is a person who has limited access to a wide range of information or does not possess the critical thinking skills to sort through all of that. And there's a difference between being low information and being stupid.
Josh Groft 8:56
It's almost like in a media environment and technological era where so much information is available and in your space all the time, it would be important to be able to read things critically,
Jahnna Harvey 9:07
Yeah, but media literacy is not something that we even thought about teaching in school until fairly recently. Like I started teaching 12 years ago, and that was really when media literacy curricula really kind of started to come into play. And so when there weren't as many media sources and there wasn't a 24 hour news cycle, it wasn't something that people really thought of, including in school curriculum, because if you only have four channels and the local newspaper, there's a lot less to sort through.
Josh Groft 9:42
I think I got a media literacy lesson in my very first [dog drinking water in the background] the very first course of my very first class as a freshman at Penn State, which was English...
Jahnna Harvey 9:54
...30. [both]
Josh Groft 9:56
...from Jeremiah Dyehouse. Jeremiah, you're on blast. Uh, this, this lesson in media literacy was: there are three newspapers available for free for you to read on this campus: the New York Times, the USA Today, and the student paper, the Collegian.
Jahnna Harvey 10:12
No, we also had the Centre Daily Times.
Josh Groft 10:14
Oh.
Jahnna Harvey 10:15
Which Rob Hume called the Center [both] Daily Crimes. [Jahnna laughs].
Josh Groft 10:17
Yes I understand. It's very clever. It's a crime...
Jahnna Harvey 10:20
Because all it was was basically the police blotter.
Josh Groft 10:22
...Because all of the, I mean, any actual journalism that was being done locally was done by the college, like student reporters. Anyway, the the lesson I learned was: he chucked the the USA Today in the bin, and he's like, read the times, or read the Collegian, or read both, but don't read the USA Today,
Jahnna Harvey 10:47
We were very fortunate to have a very good student newspaper. [Aside to a dog: Excuse me.]
Josh Groft 10:51
Yes, well, it's a large university. That's helpful. I read an opinion piece from a student. I want to say she was an athlete, but maybe she was a coach, [Jahnna: Edward.] from the University of or, yeah, Western Oregon University, the other day,apropos nothing, except this well..anyway...
Jahnna Harvey 11:16
And it said? [laughter]
Josh Groft 11:17
Oh. It said it was, it said, Can we cuss on this podcast?
Jahnna Harvey 11:24
I don't know. It's up to you.
Josh Groft 11:25
Well, Okay. I mean, the headline was the headline. It's an opinion article. It was very short, like four or five paragraphs. It's just a reclamation of the word ****, because she was like, call me a ****. But it was better written than I just explained it anyway, I'll, I guess, link to it in the show notes. What?
Jahnna Harvey 11:45
I'm being sat upon.
Josh Groft 11:49
Sure? Why not? Excuse me. Oh, boy. Coughing and snotting.
Jahnna Harvey 11:54
Yeah.
Josh Groft 11:55
I don't usually talk this much, that's probably why.
Jahnna Harvey 11:57
There's uh...there's space for one, one person in this seat, and there's three of us in this seat,
Josh Groft 12:05
Should I photograph you?
Jahnna Harvey 12:06
Um...My hair's a mess because I just got out of bed. Anyway, Edward knows no boundaries. Okay.
Josh Groft 12:15
Anyway, that's fun. Don't be afraid. Oh, well, be afraid, but, you know, direct your fear into something,
Jahnna Harvey 12:22
But not of brown people or single mothers or things like that. Because,
Josh Groft 12:27
Well, I don't know, I'm not a reliable source, but the FBI says white supremacy is the greatest threat to national security. I can link to that too, but it's out well, let's say it's out there. It may not be at this point, since we're scrubbing things from government websites, but...
Jahnna Harvey 12:43
Well, we're not even doing the daily mortality report from the CDC anymore.
Josh Groft 12:49
Oh no, people don't die anymore. Trump fixed that. Okay.
Jahnna Harvey 12:53
Just seems like such a strange...
Josh Groft 12:57
I'm throwing it ...kay, we're moving on. I laid tile yesterday in the kitchen. Were we still working on the kitchen 18 months ago?
Jahnna Harvey 13:05
Probably. We've been working on our kitchen off and on since we moved into this house, basically.
Josh Groft 13:12
Well, we've been, yeah, that's true. I don't know. We'll talk about the house, like we refinanced the House about this time last year, a little earlier in...
Jahnna Harvey 13:24
January last year.
Josh Groft 13:26
because the idea was, okay, we're going to consolidate all of our debt under the mortgage, and then we're also going to have a little cash left over, and we're going to buy cabinets and tile and countertops and do the kitchen. Um...the appraisal that we got on the house at the time was not for anyone who's ever dealt in any kind of financial nonsense will be shocked! and amazed to learn that the appraisal was not what the mortgage company told us it would be.
Jahnna Harvey 13:59
And it's not what we're paying taxes on, either.
Josh Groft 14:01
It is not what we're paying taxes on. That's our fault, though.
Jahnna Harvey 14:04
Well, it is partly our fault, but also, I don't know if, um, FHA appraisals take into account comps in the neighborhood...
Josh Groft 14:14
Yes, they do.
Jahnna Harvey 14:17
...because, like, a house very similar to ours over like on Napanee, like two streets over, just sold for 425, or something.So...
Josh Groft 14:26
...Right.
Jahnna Harvey 14:27
...like this week...
Josh Groft 14:31
Yeah. Anyway, we are having the house reappraised on [both]Friday. It's the same appraiser and, um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know entirely what goes into an appraisal, and it is an FHA appraisal, so that does impact something, I'm sure. But the difference between what we were expecting--what we were told to expect last year, and what we got...
Jahnna Harvey 15:05
...and what actually happened...
Josh Groft 15:07
...was vast. Now, we did manage to use that to pay off the car and some stuff, but...
Jahnna Harvey 15:12
But it didn't go the way we thought it was going to go.
Josh Groft 15:15
No, so we're going again. Um, uh, it'll still be an FHA loan, and it will still be at a comparable interest rate and all that crap.But anyway, I laid tile yesterday because I can't...
Jahnna Harvey 15:37
...because we had a hole in the floor...
Josh Groft 15:38
...I can't have exposed subfloor while the appraiser’s here. So I'm just, I've got, like, a fairly short, but still too long for the amount of time I have left to do it, list of things to do around the house before he shows up.
Jahnna Harvey 15:56
Well, it doesn't help that one of those things is to get rid of the brush pile in the back. And then it snowed two and a half inches that we didn't expect.
Josh Groft 16:06
It's supposed to snow again...
Jahnna Harvey 16:09
Yeah, Wednesday or Thursday, [Josh: Yeah.] Welcome to the Ohio River Valley in February. [Josh: Hm.] Because one day last week it was like, or a couple weeks ago, it was like, 60 degrees. [Pause then laughing] So, oh, well. [sniff]
Josh Groft 16:28
Anyway, tile's down. I gotta ground it today. You know, we put a window in the house. Did that happen in the past 18 months? Sure...
Jahnna Harvey 16:38
Yes. I will say that I'm very proud of all the skills that you have learned.
Josh Groft 16:44
Why are you proud? I've learned them.
Jahnna Harvey 16:46
No, I'm proud of you.
Josh Groft 16:47
Oh, thank you. I love you too. I love you more.
Jahnna Harvey 16:52
No.
Josh Groft 16:52
[Laughing] Right. So I guess that's the story for those of you who haven't heard it. In our house. Someone did something terrible to our house in 1990--I'm gonna say--three.
Jahnna Harvey 17:06
Yeah, someone did a lot of terrible things to our house in 1993.If you've owned a house that was remodeled in 1993 or thereabouts, you know the terrible things that people did to houses in the early 1990s
Josh Groft 17:18
If somehow you haven't seen our house or been to it. It's a little Cape Cod three quarter Cape Cod.
Jahnna Harvey 17:24
It's a three quarter Cape. It was built in 1946. She's gonna have her birthday next year, and it was fancy when it was built...
Josh Groft 17:39
Yes.
Jahnna Harvey 17:40
...because our house was the model home for the first ever Louisville Home-A-Rama in 1946
Josh Groft 17:49
Because we are in the original suburb.
Jahnna Harvey 17:51
Yeah. Um. So when the post war neighborhood boom happened in Louisville, it was this neighborhood that was platted out as, like, the first suburb of Louisville, and so our house was the model house. So our house was built in 1946 but with 1950s conveniences...
Josh Groft 18:10
Oh yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 18:11
...and so, but then also some throwback decor too, like Art Nouveau. So we have a lot of built-ins. We have a fluted fireplace, things like that. But our house was fancy when it was built.
Josh Groft 18:22
I think the most important thing to know about our house is that it's a brick veneer, and underneath that it is aluminum clad.
Jahnna Harvey 18:30
Yeah, there's like a thick aluminum plate, because it's also meant to survive a nuclear bomb. Because 1946.
Josh Groft 18:37
It will also prevent the aliens from invading your brain with their beams.
Jahnna Harvey 18:43
What this means in practical terms is that in much of the house, you can't get a cell phone signal, and it's very difficult to mount a wireless doorbell. So...but at any rate, our house was super fancy. It was a model home. It has like, really beautiful trim, all the things, and in the 90s, the people who owned our house, they were the second owners of our house after the original owner. They decided that they wanted to go with what was really popular in the early 90s, which was that Ralph Lauren Red Tuscan look, and so they added a lot of Italianate accents to the house and
Josh Groft 19:23
So much.
Jahnna Harvey 19:24
Um, the kitchen was literally painted Ralph Lauren Red because we found the can after we moved in, um, and all of these things. So this has been like an ongoing process since we bought the house, to kind of restore it.
Josh Groft 19:38
We're bringing her back!
Jahnna Harvey 19:39
Yeah, to kind of restore her to the way that she was, but while accepting some modifications. For example, they took out one of the bedrooms on the first floor, and so that's now our dining room, and it's open to the living room, and that's great but we want to make sure...
Josh Groft 19:56
We are going to separate it off a little.
Jahnna Harvey 19:57
...yeah, we want to make sure that our spaces are a little bit more delineated, but we're not going to turn it back into a bedroom, so we're going to accept some of the changes. But then kind of modify them to make it more in the style that it would have been if it had been built that way originally.
Josh Groft 20:12
Yes, great. So...
Jahnna Harvey 20:17
And also, we'll be taking out a 1990s glass block wall upstairs, because I hate it.
Josh Groft 20:23
No, it's not 1990s it's 1920s it's Art Deco.
Jahnna Harvey 20:27
It is not.
Josh Groft 20:28
I know.
Jahnna Harvey 20:29
But apparently one of my co workers tells me that we could make a fair amount of money off selling those glass blocks...
Josh Groft 20:34
Great!
Jahnna Harvey 20:35
...because people do like the old ones better than the new ones because they're sturdier, but I also have a lot of stuff marked for the restore. So...
Josh Groft 20:45
Yeah, okay, I don't know how we would go. That'd be like: Okay, I've got a bag full of cocaine. How do I sell that I don't know glass blocks? How do I sell that? I don't know.
Jahnna Harvey 20:53
You put them on Facebook Marketplace, but we're not on Facebook, so I figure that we'll just send all of our stuff to the restore and
Josh Groft 20:58
It's too masculine.
Jahnna Harvey 20:59
Yeah, we'll send all of our stuff to the Habitat ReStore, and then they can work out how to sell it.
Josh Groft 21:06
Okay, good. Yes, let's do that. Let's let the professionals handle it. We do not have the professionals doing the renovation, so let the professionals do the rest of it. Yeah no the Italian, the Italian, Tuscan Villa thing is, really, it's really odd, because if you think of, if I think of a Tuscan villa, I think of, like, an expansive, kind of large, right? This is a three quarter Cape Cod, yeah? Okay, first...
Jahnna Harvey 21:33
Tan paint and some wrought iron window baskets don't really do it.
Josh Groft 21:37
Oh, my god, yeah. But it's like, it's and it's like everything, right? It's the tile in the kitchen and the tile in what is now my office on the floor, these huge terracotta looking...
Jahnna Harvey 21:49
Faux terra cotta tiles, yeah.
Josh Groft 21:51
...um, the pillar in the living room...
Jahnna Harvey 21:56
Yeah, because they put in arches. This house would not have had arches when it was built, it would have had very straight lines.
Josh Groft 22:05
It would have had straight lines and like that trim like is around the front door.
Jahnna Harvey 22:10
Yeah, it would have had a case opening...
Josh Groft 22:12
Yes. So...
Jahnna Harvey 22:14
...so we're gonna put a case opening back.
Josh Groft 22:16
...and I know that when So, when we So, some of the things we've done to the house so far include…there was, um, the kitchen opened into the back. What lists on the real estate listing as a bedroom, what it is...
Jahnna Harvey 22:33
It is now. It wasn't ever when the house was built, it would have been the original dining room...
Josh Groft 22:41
...because there was a fancy light in there.
Jahnna Harvey 22:42
Yeah, it would have been the original dining room. And so it made sense at the time for the kitchen to open into that room, because it would not have originally opened into the room where we're sitting, which is our current dining room, because that was a bedroom when the house was built.
Josh Groft 22:59
Right now, interestingly enough, when we walled that in...
Jahnna Harvey 23:05
Yes, we put the wall back
Josh Groft 23:07
...to become my office, yeah, so I was gonna say, interestingly enough, when we did that, the structure was all there, like, I think Max was, was surprised to find what was like, because we took the the casing down, and he's like, Oh, this is, like, you can read the labeling on it. It's like, from Home Depot. And I'm like, yeah, no, this is all, this is all fake.
Jahnna Harvey 23:28
Well, it probably would have been like a regular sized doorway with, like a [Josh: swing door], a double swing, yeah, see into the kitchen for God's sake. No, because kitchens were not public spaces when this house was built, right?
Josh Groft 23:45
It's where your...where your servant works.
Jahnna Harvey 23:46
Well, no, but it just wasn't a public space, and so, and it doesn't make sense for ours to be a public space because it is small.
Josh Groft 23:57
Yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 23:58
And when people come to the house and we're all standing in the kitchen. It is cramped, [Josh: uh huh.] So, I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense for it to be, like, open on all sides.
Josh Groft 24:10
The thing about it is it's not, it is not non-functionally small. Like...
Jahnna Harvey 24:15
No, it's perfectly fine.
Josh Groft 24:17
The problem with it is..
Jahnna Harvey 24:18
It is not an entertaining kitchen like they say now on TV.
Josh Groft 24:21
Yeah, no. But the annoying thing about it is everything that was done to it in 1993 like these countertops that have a slope on the edge, yeah? What is that I can't attach, like, we have, like a pasta, like a hand crank pasta maker, or, like the apple peeler with the the crank, you know? And you can't attach anything to the countertop. It's slanted. Slanted! [both laughing] Why? The cabinets that were in there were horrible. They weren't horrible. They were prefab.
Jahnna Harvey 24:51
They were stock, [Josh: Yeah] kind of colonial. But that's the other thing. They were colonial cabinets in this supposedly Tuscan look. So there were a lot of inconsistencies within the design as well. So, we're going back to a flat front, you know, early, early 50s style.
Josh Groft 25:15
We got a smaller fridge.
Jahnna Harvey 25:17
Yes, it's not 1950s small. [Josh: No.] It is actually, like, counter sized.
Josh Groft 25:24
Counter depth? Yeah, the one that we had was not.
Jahnna Harvey 25:27
And it didn't fit in the space it was in. So that didn't help,
Josh Groft 25:29
Right. And I understand why, right? Like, I get it because the dishwasher was the same way. The dish with the dishwasher fit in the spot. And it wasn't bad, but it was just like the cheap off the floor, Home Depot, whatever or whatever was bought through the home insurance. [Jahnna: Yeah] cheap appliances, so we've got a matching set. Unintentionally? No...not unintentionally.
Jahnna Harvey 25:55
No, not unintentionally because I picked the fridge, [Josh: Yeah] after a lot of research, and then when it came time to replace the stove, I looked first at that same line. [Josh: Yes.] It's Frigidaire Gallery, if anybody's interested. I looked first at that same line because we wanted to go to induction for safety and also for cleaning purposes. And so I looked at that first, and I really liked it. And then we took Eddie to the store to make sure that he wasn't tall enough to put his front paws on the stove.
Josh Groft 26:35
It does have touch controls, which is the one thing about it that drives me kind of nuts.
Jahnna Harvey 26:40
And he's not tall enough to turn it on and off [Josh: Yes]. So the man at the store thought that was really odd, but whatever. And so then when it came time to get the dishwasher, I just automatically was like, well, we should just get one in the same line, and then I just chose one from that line that had features that matched what we wanted, and that top skinny rack is awesome.
Josh Groft 27:07
It's the best. Yeah, there's a, I don't know what it's like, it's like a flat tray in the top of the dishwasher, and there's a sprayer immediately beneath it and immediately above it. And you put your knives in there, or your spatulas and stuff like things that don't fit in the silverware bucket, yeah. Incidentally, when it came time to replace the dishwasher, that was not in the plans, the dishwasher died, right?
Jahnna Harvey 27:31
But we were going to replace it anyway. We just had planned to wait another year or so before we did that, right?
Josh Groft 27:37
Um, fortunately, part of the thing that appealed when you were buying and researching the fridge is that this, these, this Frigidaire line is..
Jahnna Harvey 27:48
...it's really nice, but it's much less inexpensive than some of the comparable
Josh Groft 27:53
Much less inexpensive? Much less expensive.
Jahnna Harvey 27:57
Yes! much less expensive than some of the comparable ones.
Josh Groft 27:59
Yes, and it's very good value for money.
Jahnna Harvey 28:01
Yeah. And I hear, like, terrible things about, like Samsung appliances, like, they should have stuck to phones,
Josh Groft 28:13
Oh, sure. and TVs, they're fine. The TVs are fine, yeah. And their phones are good, sure, so.
Jahnna Harvey 28:20
But like I, anybody I know who has one of their washer dryers just complains about it endlessly. So I decided that...
Josh Groft 28:28
We're very we are very so in this way, it turns out we are a little bit like in the age of the house, in the time of the house, right? We've got Maytag, washer, dryer, Frigidaire fridge, yeah, we should get an Electrolux vacuum,
Jahnna Harvey 28:46
But they also have really, really clean lines, and they're not fancy looking, and so they do fit with the overall aesthetic. [Josh: Yes] of the house, because they don't have a lot of bells and whistles, touch screens and such.
Josh Groft 28:59
No, it'll be a very simple but sleek, modern kitchen. And it's, we've got some other...
Jahnna Harvey 29:05
Not modern. It'll be timeless.
Josh Groft 29:07
Timeless.
Jahnna Harvey 29:08
Because it will look like, except for that they're going to be wood cabinets, and not metal fronts or something, but it would look like the original kitchen probably would have looked in terms of cabinet style, not layout, but cabinet style.
Josh Groft 29:20
Certainly not layout, because there wouldn't have been a nine foot cabinet.
Jahnna Harvey 29:23
Well, also the door is in the wrong place.
Josh Groft 29:25
Right. Sure. Good point. Anyway, laying tile yesterday, my legs hurt. My knees hurt, even though I had, I was wearing knee pads and also resting those knee pads on a foam mat on the floor. I gotta grout today. What else have we done? Oh, we put in a window in the kitchen. Yeah, I'm sorry. Restored a window.
Jahnna Harvey 29:50
Restored a window.
Josh Groft 29:51
It's not the original window, although that may be in the garage or in the basement somewhere, but it is part of this amazing...
Jahnna Harvey 29:58
It's the right style, though, six light.
Josh Groft 30:01
Yes, as part of this amazing, uh, Tuscan renovation in the 90s, someone ...
Jahnna Harvey 30:10
...put indoor floor tile over an outdoor window.
Josh Groft 30:13
For starters
Jahnna Harvey 30:16
in order to get in a micro hood, microwave hood.
Josh Groft 30:18
Right.
Jahnna Harvey 30:19
Now we don't have a hood...
Josh Groft 30:21
Well, no.
Jahnna Harvey 30:22
...but we have a window.
Josh Groft 30:23
We do have a ceiling fan vent, like built in from when the house was built, that we would like to restore. I think I can, yeah, I don't know if I can repair it. I mean, I can take it apart and see now that I've done the garage door opener, I'm sure that's not any more complicated. It's a fan with a motor. If the motor is dead, though, I don't know how to fix that. And the problem is in trying to buy one to replace it, nothing looks like that anymore, yeah? Or if it does, it comes from, like, Restoration Hardware, and it's a billion dollars, yeah? Because it's steel, right? But we'll get to that when we get to that. [Yeah.] Anyway, there's...
Jahnna Harvey 31:03
That's the other thing about layout is that that would have originally been much closer to the stove,
Josh Groft 31:08
Right? Because it would have...this would have been a wall,
Jahnna Harvey 31:10
Because there would have been a wall instead of the door into there.
Josh Groft 31:13
Right? Yeah. But in any case, they took out this window on the south side of the house.
Jahnna Harvey 31:22
Which is so suck, because the south side of the house is the only side that gets consistent sunlight.
Josh Groft 31:31
They took this window out and they put in, that's where the range is. And then there's a microwave, and there was a cabinet, the horrible cabinetry all the way around it. And we know that there was a window there because on the outside of the house, they used the same indoor floor tile bathroom floor tile...
Jahnna Harvey 31:54
...as was on the wall of our bathroom.
Josh Groft 31:56
Right. Well, no, on the floor of our bathroom, I think what's currently still there.
Jahnna Harvey 32:01
No, it's the...it matched the wall, not the floor.
Josh Groft 32:05
Well. In any case, they put it on the outside of the house, just over the window, instead of, like, trying to match the brick veneer [yep] or instead of, like...
Jahnna Harvey 32:13
...anything else?
Josh Groft 32:14
Anything else. So, it was just like a piece of plywood underneath. So, um, we went looking for windows, and we talked to...
Jahnna Harvey 32:29
Nobody would put it in.
Josh Groft 32:30
...the big blue store. And they were like, Nah, we won't put it in because it cuts into the structure. You have to cut into the structure of the house. I'm like, No, there's no structure there.
Jahnna Harvey 32:38
Yeah, so that you cut the hole...
Josh Groft 32:41
I didn't cut anything.
Jahnna Harvey 32:42
But you opened the hole back up...
Josh Groft 32:44
Yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 32:44
And then we asked Champion, okay, here's a hole. Can you come put a window in it? And they were like, No. And so then you were like, well, nuts to that.
Josh Groft 32:54
Well now there's a hole in the house so I have put in a window. So I learned to install a window it's been in for almost a year. Yep, it doesn't leak. Nope, uh.
Jahnna Harvey 33:07
I wonder what happened to Lester? We had a robin who went into the window all the time.
Josh Groft 33:13
Well, I don't know how long, how long do Robins live?
Jahnna Harvey 33:16
Oh, they can live for quite some time, I think. But obviously he learned that the window was not a tree.
Josh Groft 33:23
Well, we did put up dots
Jahnna Harvey 33:24
...because we put up bird dots, and he still tried a few times after that, but...
Josh Groft 33:30
More than a few, but not for very long.
Jahnna Harvey 33:32
Yeah. So Lester, wherever you are, I hope you are. Well,
Josh Groft 33:38
yeah,
Jahnna Harvey 33:41
I think songbirds can live for for a while,
Josh Groft 33:44
Several years? Yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 33:44
I mean, our cardinals, I think, are the same ones every year, and they're the ones that get so livid when the bird feeders are empty.
Josh Groft 33:50
Yes, there's definitely, there's definitely some very recognizable Cardinals. We had a...
Jahnna Harvey 33:54
...and we have a blue jay who I saw a couple days ago.
Josh Groft 33:56
I hate that guy. I mean, I like, I think corvids are maybe some of the coolest birds, but that blue jay's a real asshole.
Jahnna Harvey 34:05
Well, you weren't even here the day that two other blue jays tried to move into that blue jay's tree in our neighbor's yard, and they were fighting so loud I could hear them in my office, like on the other side of the house.
Josh Groft 34:20
We also have a squirrel that used to throw nuts at Charlie.
Jahnna Harvey 34:23
Oh, I think that's the same squirrel that runs on the wire to drive Otis crazy.
Josh Groft 34:27
Yeah, no, because he does. He does still throw nuts. He doesn't throw him at Otis. He just throws at me. [laughter] Because I'll be out on the deck, like watching the dogs, and I'll get, like, a little drop on my shoulder, and [mutter] Yeah, because there aren't acorns that fall naturally on the deck.
Jahnna Harvey 34:45
No, it's Stinky Squirrel and he totally will, like, wait in the ironwood tree by the fence for Otis to come out and then hop up on the power line so that Otis can't reach him.
Josh Groft 35:00
Yeah, yeah. If Wren's out there by himself, sometimes we'll be up there chittering and try to get Wren and Wren's like nah.
Jahnna Harvey 35:05
Well, he can't hear him. Stinky Squirrel does not realize that Wren is deaf for the most part. He can only hear very, very loud things, and he can only see very, very bright things that are very, very close to his face.
Josh Groft 35:22
No, he he's his nose knows, though.
Jahnna Harvey 35:25
Yes.
Josh Groft 35:26
So when I feed him, I usually have a little bit of, well, either there's a little bit of chunks and gravy in there from the wet food, or I'll take some of, like, the dredges from the bottom of the treats, and sprinkle it over his food.
Yeah.
So he's like,[sniff sniff]. And then he's like, oh, there's food here. Because the kibbles don't smell as much as freeze dried chicken breast, I guess.
Jahnna Harvey 35:49
Yeah. And whatever else is...
Josh Groft 35:51
...whatever else is in the dregs.
Jahnna Harvey 35:52
...is in the dregs,
Josh Groft 35:53
Blueberry fruits for snacks.
Jahnna Harvey 35:56
Yeah, that's what. Well, that's what I was doing when I was putting the dried blueberries and the dried strawberries on top of his food, his food when you were in Memphis or whatever, or St Louis, or wherever you were, and he was having trouble eating, and I put the freeze dried fruit on top of his food, and then he was like, oh, there's fruit here. And then he was like, oh. And also food.
Josh Groft 36:24
All right? So we're just sort of doing, we've been 18 months, so we're just sort of doing updates, right? We eat, speaking of fruit, we eat fruit.
Jahnna Harvey 36:31
We eat a lot of fruit.
Josh Groft 36:32
Now.
Jahnna Harvey 36:32
We've gone mostly vegetarian.
Josh Groft 36:35
I can't think with all this fruit in the house.
Jahnna Harvey 36:36
I know we've gone mostly vegetarian, but like, technically, pescatarian,
Josh Groft 36:40
Yes.
Jahnna Harvey 36:41
Um, because I still have some protein and iron requirements, dietary, diet, dietary wise, which is why we're putting anchovies in our pasta sauce, anchovy paste and stuff, and cooking in a cast iron pan and whatever tips and tricks we can because I've been running really anemic for like, a year.
Josh Groft 37:00
Just chewing on iron, yeah, well, and that's because you've had, are we? Do you want to talk about health? You had kidney stones?
Jahnna Harvey 37:11
I did, but that...
Josh Groft 37:12
First time ever,
Jahnna Harvey 37:13
[Laughing] No. So, like, not long before we recorded our last podcast, I was in the hospital for kidney stones,
Josh Groft 37:21
That's right.
Jahnna Harvey 37:22
And then 18 months later, or whatever, I had five more, and so they were blown up and removed and stuff. But that's not really related to the anemia, but I have, because of the kidney stones, I have some dietary restrictions where I'm not supposed to eat certain things, because my body makes kidney stones out of them, but some of those things are also high in iron, so it's hard to get enough iron in my diet. I have to be really careful about phosphorus and oxalate and, um, and all of these things. But then also I have to be really careful about calcium and vitamin D. Like, I have to eat things with calcium, but I can't take a vitamin D supplement, so I have to stand in the sun, which I really hate. And all of this kind of interacts with each other really badly. And then, like, some things that would be good for my arthritis, I can't eat. And so...
Josh Groft 38:21
It's the perfect storm.
Jahnna Harvey 38:22
Yeah.
Josh Groft 38:22
You are the perfect storm. Onyx Storm.
Jahnna Harvey 38:26
So, um, you know, a lot of genetic things will skip a generation. Some won't, some do, but in my family, it seems like everything just landed on me. So...
Josh Groft 38:37
Good job.
Jahnna Harvey 38:38
Yeah. And then I'm the only, I'm the only biological child both of my parents and so, like, I got all this stuff
Josh Groft 38:48
You didn't need to. You could have stopped it, like half the stuff, you could have just laid off.
Jahnna Harvey 38:53
Yeah, I got all the stuff.
Josh Groft 38:54
Gotta be a perfectionist.
Jahnna Harvey 38:55
So I have ankylosing spondyloarthritis, which means that...
Josh Groft 38:59
Say that one more time, slowly.
Jahnna Harvey 39:01
ankylosing spondyloarthritis, right? So my...
Josh Groft 39:04
You're an ankylosaur.
Jahnna Harvey 39:05
Yeah, so my, my body forms theses like osseous lesions on my spine, and
Josh Groft 39:12
Awesome lesions?
Jahnna Harvey 39:13
Yeah, and then in my joints, also.
Josh Groft 39:16
Oh, good.
Jahnna Harvey 39:17
And so, like, certain things that I would take, like medicine wise, or maybe eat or avoid eating, to kind of help with inflammation symptoms, they don't necessarily fit in with my kidney stone diet. And so it's just all like this one big, like sliding piece puzzle, but we haven't gotten the pieces in the right spot yet, so that's kind of an ongoing process, but every time I have blood drawn, they find something else. So I'm thinking, maybe I'll just stop
Josh Groft 39:56
Stop bleeding? Cut your neck open? Maybe?
Jahnna Harvey 40:01
So I don't, I don't know. Every time they're like, oh, we need to do labs. I'm like, Oh, crap. What are we gonna find now? Sothat's fun, but it's fine. I actually feel really good last couple of months. I mean, except when I was recovering from the kidney stone surgery. Actually feel really good for the most part, my it's been cold and it's been wet, so my fingers hurt really badly. But, you know, it's, it's an interesting it's an interesting experience, like, well, an eye opening experience to live with any kind of chronic illness, right? Because you get a different perspective on health and on how broken the health insurance process is and like all of these different things, but then also to live with chronic pain is, um, is really, really enlightening, because my body hurts all the time, some, somewhere, somehow, My body hurts all the time to varying degrees. Um, it is weather sensitive, which I live in Kentucky, so that sucks, but because it's very wet here, but
Josh Groft 41:11
And it goes from hot to cold all the time.
Jahnna Harvey 41:13
Yeah.
Josh Groft 41:13
Back and forth, yeah.
Jahnna Harvey 41:14
Um, and there's like, crazy people in the desert. So I can't, like, maybe I can move to New Mexico, but because those are, like, arty crazy people rather than crazy, crazy people, anyway. So like, I need,
Josh Groft 41:28
What about Old Mexico?
Jahnna Harvey 41:29
I need, like, the seaside cure, or whatever.
Josh Groft 41:33
We're sending you to Brighton.
Jahnna Harvey 41:37
I need to go live in SouthEnd on Sea. But like, My body hurts all the time, and so that gives you a really interesting perspective on, like, what is actually important to use the limited resources that my body has in the course of the day. And I teach fifth and sixth grade, I spent a lot of time sitting on the floor. I'm out at recess, you know. And so there's just a lot of like, you know, also kind of educating my kids on, like, what the limits, what human limits look like, and how, as humans, we deal with those kinds of limits. And sort of modeling, like, being really open about, like, if I'm struggling, and and things like that, because they have bad days too. And, um, well, and, but now they all ask me if I think it's gonna rain, if my foot hurts, uh huh, they'll be like, does your right foot hurt? Is it gonna rain? Are we gonna go out for recess? Does your foot say we're gonna go out for recess?
Josh Groft 42:39
Prophesier.
Jahnna Harvey 42:41
Um, but it also makes me like, and I have to watch this because this is something that I've noticed that I need to be careful about. It makes me cynical about other people's like, temporary pain.
Josh Groft 42:54
Ohhhh.
Jahnna Harvey 42:56
And so that's something I have to like monitor,
Josh Groft 42:58
Temporary pain is not real, as you know.
Jahnna Harvey 43:00
Well, no, because, but you'll be like, Oh, my knees hurt. And I'm like, yeah, my knees hurt all the time, like the whole left side of my body. Since I fell in that basketball game right last year, the whole left side of my body hurts like all the time.
Josh Groft 43:12
You just, well, you know, it's not a misery Olympics...
Jahnna Harvey 43:16
I know. So I have to, like...
Josh Groft 43:17
...even though you're winning. [laughing]
Jahnna Harvey 43:18
...I have to watch, I have to watch my subconscious, because my subconscious does become very like nasty sometimes about other people. I'm like, Well, you should try living in my body, but that's not what it's about.
Josh Groft 43:32
Yeah. I mean, here's the thing, though, after some amount of time, there's a better than not chance that someone will experience some of the things that you're experiencing, like, not, maybe not like, all of the things all at once, like the spondyloarthritis and the kidney stones and...
Jahnna Harvey 43:51
Well, we're, we're all just like, one crisis short of disabled, right?
Josh Groft 43:55
Yes.
Jahnna Harvey 43:56
And so that is, that's another thing about like, like, inclusion and inclusionary spaces is that I find those things really beneficial, sidewalk cuts and stuff like that, because my body hurts and that's not visible to other people. I don't use a cane. I don't use a wheelchair or whatever. I probably could use a cane some days, but I don't, um, but so, like, we're all just, like, one day from disabled,
Josh Groft 44:24
Yeah, this is the thing I thought about a lot.
Jahnna Harvey 44:25
I mean, you could, you could leave the house. I mean, it snowed, you could leave the house, be in a car accident, and be disabled, like, boom,
Josh Groft 44:35
Well, and, and to some extent, like, there's, there's, like, that kind of what, what we think of as disabled, as opposed to, right? Oh, disabled, the icon, right? The parking spot is a wheelchair, right? That's the symbol. But if you wear glasses, you're disabled.
Jahnna Harvey 44:54
Yep.
Josh Groft 44:55
You wear a hearing aid. You're disabled.
Jahnna Harvey 44:56
Yeah.
Josh Groft 44:57
So...
Jahnna Harvey 44:59
Yeah, glasses. Are just like a cane or a wheelchair--a piece of technology that helps you get through the day more safely.
Josh Groft 45:06
Yeah, I wear an insulin pump. I'm disabled, yeah. And that's my fault for being having the woke mind virus
Jahnna Harvey 45:14
Which is called empathy.
Josh Groft 45:15
Empathy, yes, disgusting, yeah, I we're not.
Jahnna Harvey 45:20
I had posted yesterday. I posted yesterday, this thing that I well, I reposted it...
Josh Groft 45:26
I also reposted it from you.
Jahnna Harvey 45:28
And it was like, what radicalized you? And the woman goes reading history books and having basic empathy.
Josh Groft 45:35
Well, it's like I said a lot of people I know who are ex evangelicals. They're like, what if you ask them, Well, what? What caused you to leave the church? And they're like, I read the book.
Jahnna Harvey 45:44
Yeah, I read the manual, yeah. And that's the thing, right? Because, like, I grew up in a family that was Southern Baptist.That still is. And I'm very fortunate in that my actual, like, kinfolk, my dad, my aunt, my grandmother, is very well read. Yeah, they're readers, and they actually read the manual. And so they actually like, understand,
Josh Groft 46:14
Oh, they know what Jesus said?
Jahnna Harvey 46:15
Yeah.
Josh Groft 46:16
Weird.
Jahnna Harvey 46:16
They actually like, understand, um, what's going on in the New Testament, and what we're actually called to do as Christians. And so I've been very, very fortunate to have grown up in a Southern Baptist family, but not one that was cray cray.
Josh Groft 46:33
Yea that's a thing that I didn't know until we were together, if...
Jahnna Harvey 46:40
Because I have excellent Bible knowledge.
Josh Groft 46:42
Yes, you do.
Jahnna Harvey 46:43
But, I also am a literate, rational, critical thinking human being, and so I can, I know what's going on, like, I get it. I get the point.
Josh Groft 46:55
There's a Vonnegut quote from, I think, one of his speeches or essays or something about, you know, if we're going to be putting 10 Commandments in front of government buildings. Because, like, if we're going to be putting Christian religious treatises in front of government buildings, why are we not using the Sermon on the Mount?
Jahnna Harvey 47:14
Well, particularly, why are we not using the Sermon on the Mount? Because Jesus says in the Gospel that all the old laws have fallen away and that there is only one law remaining, and that is basically the golden rule. I know, right? Well, it has two parts, God above all things, and love thy neighbor as thyself, I know. And so that's one thing I don't understand about, especially in light of, like, having a Southern Baptist upbringing, I don't understand why people still read the Old Testament. Like, I just, like, cognitively, I don't get it.
Josh Groft 47:52
Christians.
Jahnna Harvey 47:54
Anybody. [Laughing.] Okay: Jews. Talmud. Torah. Got it, yeah. Um. But, like, anybody who's read the whole book, I don't understand why they read the Old Testament.
Josh Groft 48:07
Well, not that they read it, but why? Like, you can read a thing and like...
Jahnna Harvey 48:11
...why are we still going with that?
Josh Groft 48:11
...this is a historical document, yeah, instead, the history of our people, perhaps, but, but like, when, when your dude, the dude, [yeah], who is also God, [yeah]. Says, Hey, never mind that we're moving on to something better. And you're like, No man, we want the rocks with the words on.
Jahnna Harvey 48:31
We're like, we want Leviticus. We want the laws.
Josh Groft 48:33
I absolutely do not want Leviticus. It's the worst.
Jahnna Harvey 48:36
Yeah, no, it's, it's actually, like, it is a matter of small faith and so like, but my dad and my aunt, the parts of the Old Testament that they're drawn to are, like the Psalms and things like that. And that's fine. That's not laws and prophecies, that's for sure, but those are poems.
Josh Groft 48:56
But, I mean, that's, that is the thing, right? When, when saying the old laws of falling like it's the rules. The rules have changed. [Yeah], Jesus changed the rules.
Jahnna Harvey 49:03
That was the whole point of Jesus coming [right], was to change the rules.
Josh Groft 49:07
So, like, what are we doing?
Jahnna Harvey 49:08
Yeah.
Josh Groft 49:09
Literally, like what are we doing?
Jahnna Harvey 49:10
And so if you buy, um, like, if you buy a complete new testament, or, like, a progressive New Testament, um, which is written in more plain language, and a lot of times it'll have the Psalms attached to it.
Josh Groft 49:25
It does, I think the NIV does.
Jahnna Harvey 49:26
Psalm songs and wisdom, a lot of time will be attached to a New Testament, because those are still kind of the good parts of the Old Testament. But like, yeah, I just don't get it. AndI don't get how we're like, Well, you know, in Leviticus, it says, because it in Leviticus, it says a lot of things and...
Josh Groft 49:51
Vulgar things.
Jahnna Harvey 49:53
And the cherry-picking is really annoying.
Josh Groft 49:59
That's a different podcast we'll have to do at a different time.
Jahnna Harvey 50:00
Yeah, especially when the rule is Love thy neighbor. And Jesus does not provide a list of exceptions. He doesn't say unless they don't have papers, or unless they're brown, or unless they're queer, or...
Josh Groft 50:13
I have a...wasn't Jesus's best bud a hooker?
Jahnna Harvey 50:18
Yeah.
Josh Groft 50:19
Yeah. Huh, weird.
Jahnna Harvey 50:21
And a guy he raised from the dead. Well, so a zombie?
Josh Groft 50:24
Yeah? A zombie and a hooker. Yeah, this is excellent. Why is this not a movie?
Jahnna Harvey 50:29
It is.
Josh Groft 50:30
No but, I mean, a good movie.
Jahnna Harvey 50:31
Oh, I don't know.
Josh Groft 50:33
Why aren't we making good Jesus movies?
Jahnna Harvey 50:35
I guess Jesus, Jesus Christ Superstar.
Josh Groft 50:37
Oh, that's a good point. We should do…Marvel should do a Jesus movie,
Jahnna Harvey 50:42
But I just don't understand. Like...
Josh Groft 50:45
Yeah, you do.
Jahnna Harvey 50:46
No, I don't. Like, I really don't understand it. Because, like, it's like, the good parts version, like, why would you go and read the bad parts when you could read the good parts version? And I don't understand why people read Revelation either.
Josh Groft 50:59
I think it's the same. I think it's the same thing as so-called constitutional originalism, where people are like, they latch on to things that work for them, and by work for them, I mean from which they can draw power and control people.
Jahnna Harvey 51:19
Well, constitutional originalism doesn't make any sense either, because it's an amendable document.
Josh Groft 51:25
I know what you mean. Hey, if you don't, if you like this podcast, go listen to the Five-Four podcast. They're really good at this.
Jahnna Harvey 51:34
It's an amendable document. And I sat there in person and listened to Antonin Scalia explain why it's not a living document, but it is because it is an amendable document, living from jump, they add 10 rules straight away. So by virtue of the fact that it is an amendable document, it is, as a result, a living document because it has a mechanism in it by which it can be changed to be more appropriate to whatever the people need. And so, by definition, that is a living document.
Josh Groft 52:11
It's the original hypertext.
Jahnna Harvey 52:12
And I I watched Antonin Scalia do his little dance about how it's not a living Constitution. And smart as the man was, that was something that he really firmly believed in. Well, I, I will say, though, that I kind of miss, I miss Scalia on the Supreme Court because he was very intelligent and rational.
Josh Groft 52:43
Sonya Sotomayor is rational and intelligent.
Jahnna Harvey 52:46
Yeah, but I miss rational arguments, like in general, but anyway, um, but I just, but yeah, I mean, I sat there in the audience and I was like, What the hell is this man talking about? This is absolutely insane, because if it was not an amendable document, it would be carved in stone, like the 10 Commandments.
Josh Groft 53:15
Or it would say, and these are the rules. You can't change them. [barking] Oh yeah. Oh yeah Wren has thoughts about this. Well, he says you're coming up on an hour here, 56 minutes. So anything else? Oh, did I? We didn't need to get into the Constitution or the Bible, really.
Jahnna Harvey 53:35
You can't, not these days. It turns out it's all over.
Josh Groft 53:38
Why do you keep rubbing all this transgender stuff in our faces? I don't know why you keep bringing it up like no one wants to hear about it stop.
Jahnna Harvey 53:44
Yeah, yeah. Well, and it, it really is, like emblematic of the entire situation that we're cutting 1% of the US budget by cutting USAID and foreign aid. I mean,
Josh Groft 53:58
Less than 1%
Jahnna Harvey 53:59
Well USAID is less than 1% but total foreign aid out of the US budget, 1% of the US budget.
Josh Groft 54:06
[To Wren] I'm here.
Jahnna Harvey 54:08
That money means a lot to other people. It doesn't mean a lot to the United States, right? We're going after transgender people. That's another 1% 1% of the US population.
Josh Groft 54:18
Yeah, like 1.3 million people.
Jahnna Harvey 54:20
Yeah, 1% of the US population, and so 99% of the people are not...are unbothered. Why make 1% miserable?Since, I mean,
Josh Groft 54:30
[To Wren re: treats] Great, now you're gonna get everyone one.
Jahnna Harvey 54:40
just the resources required, the resources required to to do silly things to 1% of something is just mind blowing. But if we're throwing treats at the dog, I think we're probably done.
Josh Groft 55:01
We are done. Okay, who knows when this will go up, but if you're hearing it, it's up.
Jahnna Harvey 55:08
Yeah, maybe back next week with more...
Josh Groft 55:11
Well...sure.
Jahnna Harvey 55:13
...with more thoughts. Because obviously we have them.
Josh Groft 55:15
Next week's gonna be...
Jahnna Harvey 55:16
Opinions. I've got them.
Josh Groft 55:17
Next week's gonna be crazy.
Jahnna Harvey 55:20
No, Friday is going to be crazy.
Josh Groft 55:21
Oh yeah, good point.
Jahnna Harvey 55:22
Because Friday we have the cleaner coming. I mean, which is a blessing, yes, and the appraiser is coming, yes, which is hopefully a blessing, and I have to go to the doctor, and then we have a date night. We're going to see a Zydeco concert, or Zydeco if you prefer.
Josh Groft 55:39
I do. I don't know why, but I do.
Jahnna Harvey 55:42
So Friday is gonna be crazy.
Josh Groft 55:44
And then Saturday something else, a haircut. I have a haircut.
Jahnna Harvey 55:47
Yeah.
Josh Groft 55:48
Yes! Okay, cool. We're still on Instagram.
Jahnna Harvey 55:56
Yes, you can find us @barklifepod on Instagram. On Instagram and on Bluesky.
Josh Groft 56:04
Do I have a login for that or did you just make me a collaborator?
Jahnna Harvey 56:07
I think I just made you a collaborator. And on Bluesky, and
Josh Groft 56:11
I'm not on Bluesky, but the podcast is.
Jahnna Harvey 56:13
And barklifepod.com is the new website,
Josh Groft 56:17
Yes.
Jahnna Harvey 56:17
And all of that should be up and running this winter.
Josh Groft 56:20
So well, technically, we're in the solar spring already, but you can't tell today
Jahnna Harvey 56:27
You can't tell. There's two and a half inches of snow on the ground with more to come this week.
Josh Groft 56:32
So last point of business. We don't have to do it on the podcast, but I'm just thinking about, thinking about now as I'm listening to it, as Eddie, the audio engineer, is listening, are we keeping the theme song? Are we changing it up?
Jahnna Harvey 56:44
No, I think we should keep it.
Josh Groft 56:46
Okay.
Jahnna Harvey 56:46
I liked it. Unless you want a new one.
Josh Groft 56:48
No, it's...
Jahnna Harvey 56:48
It's solid.
Josh Groft 56:49
It's a creative commons license, it's good to use. Okay, I don't know if you wanted something a little more smooth jazz.
Jahnna Harvey 56:59
No. [laughing]
Josh Groft 57:01
All right. Bye.
Jahnna Harvey 57:01
I love you, bye.
Josh Groft 57:04
I love you, bye.